YTB Royal Caribbean

Adrianne You forgot #13. Traverus is still in the exspansion phase, which seasoned MLMer's know is where the real money is made. People who have been in YTB for over 3 years or from the beginning are making the big bucks. The timing is now for those wishing to join Traverus. Lets do the math.. If you get $50 sign up bonus for each personal RTA (YTB and Traverus are on equal ground here) and you sign up 10 people YTB Traverus Friends and family paid $5000 $1190 You paid 500 119 Total paid to company $5500 $1309 Company paid you $500 $500 Company keeps $5000 $809 % paid to RTA .0909 (less than 10%) .3819 Just from this alone make me wonder who's best interest are the powers to be concerned with. Traverus pays 4 times (based on this example ) back to the ones doing the work. Cost for CTA certification $149 $50 (3 times less) Cost for Association cert $149 Free (100% less) Monthy web cost $50 $50 Ablility to have other income streams Capped Sky is the limit David

YTB Royal Caribbean

YTB Royal Caribbean

Let me clarify point number two: You can either start as a Certified Travel Agent for $399.95, or you can start as a Referring Travel Agent at $119.95 and earn your way to CTA for free. If you start as a CTA, you can earn your 70% travel commissions and your higher referral commissions right away, but you need to take the free online training (5 hours) in order to get your card, start working directly with the suppliers, and take advantage of FAM trips. But you can go on Traverus Member Trips right away. If you start as an RTA, you can become a CTA by referring two agents (either RTA or CTA) during your first 7 days, or have 12 agents total in your group (no deadline). If you upgraded to CTA for free, then you will have to pay $50 to get your card and other materials. In the meantime, as an RTA you qualify for your referral commissions (including residuals), 20% travel commissions, and can go on Traverus Member Trips. Adriane

Adrianne You forgot #13. Traverus is still in the exspansion phase, which seasoned MLMer's know is where the real money is made. People who have been in YTB for over 3 years or from the beginning are making the big bucks. The timing is now for those wishing to join Traverus. Lets do the math.. If you get $50 sign up bonus for each personal RTA (YTB and Traverus are on equal ground here) and you sign up 10 people YTB Traverus Friends and family paid $5000 $1190 You paid 500 119 Total paid to company $5500 $1309 Company paid you $500 $500 Company keeps $5000 $809 % paid to RTA .0909 (less than 10%) .3819 Just from this alone make me wonder who's best interest are the powers to be concerned with. Traverus pays 4 times (based on this example ) back to the ones doing the work. Cost for CTA certification $149 $50 (3 times less) Cost for Association cert $149 Free (100% less) Monthy web cost $50 $50 Ablility to have other income streams Capped Sky is the limit- David


4/4/2007 11:15:42 PM

Derrick was on point with his 4/2/07 9:56pm comments. Even if the price was $25 to join. People who do not have a vision or a dream will join and do nothing to help themselves. They will depend on you to build their business for them. Their attitude is "It's only $25, I can afford to lose that". Personally I am glad it cost $500. This price automaticly weeds out the fence staddlers. We have to work a little harder to find the serious business partners but I know I am not waisting my time with someone looking for a free ride. I want to be part of a company whose leaders have long-term vision to build a multi-billion dollar company and not settle for a small-time internet travel company. Does Traverus own their booking engine. YTB owns a controlling percentage of the company that provides the travel booking service not only for YTB but other internet travel websites. YTB will own the bank that will be available for customers to finance the automobile they buy from my website and I get payed on the auto purchase and the financing. So you can see it's not just about $199 or the $500. It's about the long-term vision to take this company to the level no other Network Marketing or Traditional Company had acheived. (Ownership not Rentership) Ced

Taking a MLM to no other level is a broad statement. At some peoint we have to look at the numbers. When a company is slow to report earnings that's a red flag. Remember what happened with the banks a few years ago on the street. Elliot Spitzer tore a new one at some companies. One thing I have noticed is there's not really any mention as to the products. Is the main point to sell the business? What if a person wanted to personally produce? What is the benefit to the agent? How does it compare to what's out in the market, and why do travel agents at this point have a brick and morter? I know some will say the products don't matter, but at sometime a product has to be sold. Now if the company is based on personal comsumption, that's another red flag. ***Don't believe the hype, always read the type*** Cornelius
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With the Annoucement of Royal Caribbean Terminating YTB's Contract. Traverus is looking more and more as the Company to Choose.

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Like Noah Said...."Don't Miss The Boat!"

YTB Vs Traverus

Cost	YTB 499.95	Traverus 149.95
Website	Travelocity	Travelocity
Territory	USA	International
Credentials	**Only CLIA	Clia, IATAN,
Suppliers	**Execptions	All Suppliers
Monthly Fee	49.95	49.95
Residual Income	$2 per person	$5 per upto $15 per person
Years of Operation	7 years	26years Travel/1 yr networking
Number of Reps	136,000	10,000
Member Trips	NO	YES

** YTB no longer has IATA Credentials and can no longer book travel through these suppliers. Marriot Hotels, Hyatt Hotels, Royal Caribbean Cruise lines, Norweigan Cruseline.

If Traverus obviously makes more sense to you Give me a Call and let's get your free marketing website up today.

Marcus Brewer
515-277-6462
Traverus National Exective

Speaking on credibility. If you want to know how many problems YTB is having in the Travel Industry. Just look at the fact that cannot book directly through major Hotel vendors such as Marriot hotels or the Hilton or Hyatt! What Kind of Travel Agent or legitimate travel business cannot book clients Directly with these vendors. I am not talking about the travelocity booking website that has a 50/50 split of commissions before you see a dime. I am talking about functiong as a true travel agent which YTB reps cannot do because they are not a real Travel hosting agency. They are a Referring Agent that is different.

Why would someone pay $500.00 to be a Sub travel agent and not be able to service thier clients fully is beyond me. You cannot Book through Royal Caribbean Cruiselines or Perillio tours or Norweigan Cruise lines. All these Limitations when you can Work with all these vendors for only $199 with Traverus and be a True Travel Agent and be Fully International. I have Travel Agents in Germany, Italy, South America and Isreal I even have one in Japan. YTB just got into Canada after 7 years I already had Travel agents in Canada before they got there and by the time YTB hits any other of the Travel markets, Traverus will already be there with a Price point of 199 vs 500 and people are not going to pay more money to be less of a travel agent it does not makes sense. so YTB vs Traverus is no comparison at all. Spend your time trying to part people from $500.oo + an additional $150 to get Trained LOL if you want to. Your only pushing a compensation plan not a real product and that is YTB no longer has Travel Agent License or Credentials with IATA.

It's a huge discussion all over the Net YTB Canada vs Traverus Canada.
Once you look at YTB or Traverus side by side you soon find there really is no comparison its night and Day. People who typically switch from YTB to Traverus just found that no matter how good of a recruiter they are, the name of the game is duplication and they quickly found out that many people cannot consistently sell a product for $500.00 6 times over and over to keep getting those bonuses. Plus you have to give your first 3 or 6 to your upline. So you really need 9 to 12 people before you get your first bonus. That is crazy. You will not get and residual income off the first 6 people you enroll they go to your sponsor its called a 6 up. Sad part is the DSA direct selling association which YTB is apart of knows that the average networker only signs up 2.3 people into a networking opportunity so the vast majority never make it to the power team and never make any real money. YTB rep earning compensation report also shows that as well. YTB Commissions reports :-(

Rank	#of Reps at this level	% of Active Reps	Overall % of Reps
Free Reps	246837	0.0%	80.92%
Active Reps	44926	20.95%	14.73%
Power Team Leaders	12198	1.60%	4.00%
Coach's Corner	931	.21%	.31%
Level 1 Director	122	.04%	.04%
Level 2 Director	22	.01%	.01%
Level 3 Director	8	.009%	.003%
Level 4 Director	5	.002%	.002%
Level 5 Director	1	.002%	.0003%
Level 6 Director	2	.003%	.0007%
Level 7 Director	3	.005%	.0010%

Wow Look at the Numbers starting with the first line The Free Rep Position! 80% of the reps in the company are in the free spots because they could not afford the $500 Start up Cost. That is proof the program is over priced for the Market place. Most of YTB Growth comes from Free Reps and not Agents.

Overal Active Reps is close to 15% that are not Directors and not making any real income at all. All the other directors positions that make up %5 of the company making any real commissions. These are the people in the success from home magazine and the top income earners but as you see the Vast Majority Make nothing.

You have less than a 1% chance of becoming a director in YTB. Because of the 6 up compensation plan and the $500 Start up plus the $150 training Fee. $650 to turn around and get 6 other people to do the same to and get $50 a piece. You don't get a $1000 bonus for your first six. Your upline does you don't get that till your next 6. and The Numbers Show that most of your TEAM will NEVER reach it and you set them up in a compensation plan and company where they will most likely fail than succeed. These are numbers from YTB.com own site http://www.ytb.com/downloads/YTB_IncomeDisclosure_2-8-08.pdf

Listen Position yourself with a Real Travel Company that has more average people making above average incomes more than any other company. I have been able to retire from my 6 year Management position at the bank and you can make money allot easier with this company with a product at 199 than you can for 500 in this economy.

Give me a call and get your questions answered.
If you see like we see that going around trying to twist $500 out of people is not going to be highly duplicatible to build a downline give me a call!

Pastor Brewer
515-277-6462
YTB vs Traverus

Traverus Works Thank you Traverus I have so many First in my life thanks to joining Traverus. This is my First Home! Moving in Aug 1st. I joined Traverus in March of 07. In just 5 Short months I replaced all my Bonus income I was getting as the #1 sales manager in nation in the home equity division.. By the 11th month I had completely replaced my Full Time income from Wellsfargo Bank. Now I am able to focus on Full Time Ministry and no longer have to go through the Corporate Grind. Thank you Traverus for my first house.


My Wife and I took our first cruise to Jamaica again thanks to Traverus. a 6 day cruise all inclusive cruise on the Royal Caribbean ship called enchantment of the Seas. for only $285! The ship is like a City on the Sea. Yes it was our first but not our Last. We are set to Go on a 7 Day cruise in Nov.

We will be taking our children to Disney for the First time Thanks again to Traverus! The Prices to Vacation are Amazing. You can Take Friends and Family with you at the Same Prices. Best Part is that you don't have to Sell anything or Qualify. Everyone just for being apart of Traverus can go at these Prices.

All I can tell you is as a Pastor I am very comfortable sharing this company with others. It is blessing so many Peoples lives for only $145.00 to Join right now it is great. We have retired 33 people from their jobs on our Team alone. Our team spans to over 25 Countries. Traverus is in 98 Countries.

If you have not taking a Good Look at Traverus you need to. It pays the highest residual income than any other company in the industry. I have so many on my team that have never did anything like this before that are making money. Our slogan is: "Ordinary people making Extra Ordinary Incomes!"

Get your Questions answered Today!

Pastor Brewer
International Executive
515-277-6462

YTB Franchises

Wow! This is one of the Hottest topics on the Internet! YTB company and Reps are Furious that anyone especially someone in Traverus would discuss their business model Change. They want to shut our mouths Big Time. It has been a Fued since the beginning when when the Brick and Mortar Traverus Changed its Business Model from a 22 year old Traditional Travel Agency to a Networking business model. YTB Franchises Transition will experience what Traverus and any other company that chooses to change it's business model will...attrition. That is a fact.

I have worked for Corporate America and Managed Sales Teams and Departments for 20 years. I know what happens when any organization makes changes. First thing is your communication and YTB Franchise is wise by spoon feeding information. You have to give people bits at a time to Digest. So you start with your Leadership and management to get them all on the same page first. That was done 3 weeks ago. Then you start packaging your message to the field about the YTB Franchise transition.

Now just because there was a Chat room discussion about YTB Franchise. They are doing all this damage control and spin sending Emails to the leadership. Im like WOW! Sensative!

Well for those who inquiry minds and want to know the facts without all the Drama here ya go.
YTB Franchises will help YTB introduce more YTB products into their business model.
YTB Franchises wants to be able to use the word "franchises in a Network Marketing Model" to get more acceptance in Recruiting.
YTB Franchises wants to get into the International markets.
RTA's do not have to Switch to the YTB Franchise model and can keep their downlines.
RTA's Will be invited to switch to the YTB Fanchise Model and will get an good deal to do it. But not required to switch to the Franchise.
RTA's who Switch to the YTB Franchise model will have access to everything in the RTA model as well.

More coming at Convention Folks. Have a Great one. and don't be so threatened and Call us so many names because we are both in the Travel Industry and we should both keep upto date on what other companies are doing in our industry.

I was with YTB and have nothing bad to say about them. I just saw a fresh Start with a Ground floor Company That was Already international and Cost Less Called Traverus. I felt more people could afford the program and I was was right. I am glad I made the change. and Glad for all of the people who are doing well in this Industry.

Pastor Brewer
515-277-6462
Traverus even People in Iowa Can do it!


YTB Franchises

Sad Changes coming for many hard working Americans in YTB.

15-Jul-2008

Regulation FD Disclosure

Item 7.01 Regulation FD Disclosure.
On July 15, 2008, Mr. Scott Tomer, Chief Executive Officer of YTB International, Inc. (the "Company"), announced that the Company is contemplating the replacement of its referring travel agent ("RTA") business model with the implementation of a franchise operating system, potentially in 2009. The Company expects that a franchising model, if adopted, would facilitate the Company's expansion into additional markets by providing more comprehensive training and a new proprietary e-commerce platform. Details regarding price, product offerings and the conversion plan are all under consideration, but the Company anticipates that its existing RTA base would be treated favorably under its forthcoming proposal. If a franchising model is adopted, its distribution is expected to be managed by subsidiary and current marketing arm of the Company, YourTravelBiz.com, also known as YTB.com.

The information in this report shall not be deemed "filed" for purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the "Exchange Act"), or incorporated subject to the liabilities of that section or Sections 11 and 12(a)(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the "Securities Act"), and shall not be incorporated by reference in any registration statement or other document filed under the Securities Act or the Exchange Act, whether made before or after the date hereof, regardless of any general incorporation language in such filings, except as shall be expressly set forth by specific reference in such a filing.
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As a Pastor this is very sad to see. This Change to YTB Franchises is going to affect Hundreds of Thousands of Hard working YTB rta's. YTB has struggled with alot of battles with thier business model of recruiting for $500 and it's no secret for those in the know that retention is a problem. When you look at the income disclosure statements you see the real numbers in YTB behind all the flash videos and meetings.

This move to YTB Franchises confirms all of the rumors that YTB is going to start selling many products and not be a real travel company but a Marketing arm like Amway. YTB Franchises will have YTB Cars, YTB Flowers, YTB Mortgage, YTB Insurance, YTB, YTB, YTB- YTB Franchises what every product they want to sell to their massive downline.

People who are interested in continuing to have travel Perks will look for companies like Traverus. That has been selling Travel for over 22years as a Brick and Mortar Travel Agency that has no intention of selling anything but Travel, and the most of it. Traverus has a True Home Based Certified Travel Agent position. YTB business model of its YTB RTA and YTB CRTA postions have never been denied by the YTB Corporation as not being anything Close to a Certified Travel Agent. Only the YTB field directors and YTB power team leaders and YTB presentations would have people believe that is some how the same.

Those who are intersted in Traverus and our 22 year old Travel Agent Postions Give me a call.

Pastor Brewer
International Executive
515-277-6462

July 16, 2008YTB INTERNATIONAL CONTEMPLATES
IMPLEMENTATION OF FRANCHISES
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Company Considers Adopting Franchise Operating System in 2009

Wood River, Ill., July 15, 2008 - YTB International, Inc. (OTC BB: YTBLA) ("YTB" or the "Company"), a provider of Internet-based travel booking services for travel agencies and home-based independent representatives in the United States, Bermuda, the Bahamas, and Canada, today announced that the Company is contemplating the replacement of its referring travel agent ("RTA") business model with the implementation of a franchise operating system, potentially in 2009. The Company expects that a franchising model, if adopted, would facilitate the Company's expansion into additional markets by providing more comprehensive training and a new proprietary e-commerce platform.

Details regarding price, product offerings and the conversion plan are all under consideration, but the Company anticipates that its existing RTA base would be treated favorably under its forthcoming proposal. Scott Tomer, Chief Executive Officer of YTB International, Inc. commented, "We have retained iFranchise of Chicago to consult in the planning and development of the franchise model and are excited about the potential impact on YTB's business." If a franchising model is adopted, its distribution is expected to be managed by the current marketing arm of the Company, YourTravelBiz.com, also known as YTB.com

The iFranchise Group, brings decades of experience to franchise development and implementation efforts. Their consultants have worked with over 30 Fortune 2000 companies and with 98 of the world's top 200 franchisors as rated by Franchise Times magazine. iFranchise has worked with clients such as Blockbuster Video, Ace Hardware, and McDonald's.

About YTB International
Recognized as the 26th largest seller of travel in the U.S. for travel sales reported in 2007 by Travel Weekly, YTB International, Inc. provides Internet-based travel booking services for home-based independent representatives in the United States, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, Canada, Bermuda, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

The Company operates through three subsidiaries: YourTravelBiz.com, Inc., YTB Travel Network, Inc., and REZconnect Technologies, Inc. YourTravelBiz.com focuses on marketing online travel websites through a nationwide network of independent business people, known as 'Reps.' YTB Travel Network establishes and maintains travel vendor relationships, processes travel transactions of online travel agents and affiliates, collects travel commissions and pays sales commissions. Each RTA directs consumers to the YTB Internet-based travel website. The REZconnect Technologies division operates as a travel vendor relationship management company and offers franchises of brick and mortar travel agencies. For more information, visit http://www.ytbi.com/investor.

Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.

YTB or Traverus Florida

1. If you treat your travel business like a real business you can triple your $500 investment with one group cruise. Been there - Done that. Unless you are a master networker you will struggle to make back your investment. Become a Travel Professional, book 1 or 2 group 3 day cruises and people will come to you with money in hand. 2. The other travel company - Traverus. My advice is to make sure you understand the complete system. If you are a networker they have a matrix comp plan which limits your income potential. YTB's comp plans pays on infinity. (No break aways) 3. Anyone can book travel through Traverus' corporate website. Which competes with reps website. How long do you think the company will support its sales reps if the company puts on a media advertisement program of its corporate site. With YTB you have to go through a reps website to book travel. 4. I am sold on YTB - Best $500 I have ever invested. CED

YTB Reps are not permitted to show checks or lure people into the business by talking about how much money we make, but if it wasn't working for me financially, I assure you, I wouldn't be in it. I can say that my first 5 months in the business I worked primarily the network marketing side. In my 2nd month I'd recouped my entire investment, had the monthly fee reimbursed and moved into my power team. Before long, I'd also started bonusing. Cedric is absolutely right about the travel sid eof the biz. RO

I can understand YTB as having reps who should represent, but if looking at A or B travel company I would think most people with everything being equal would go for the one with "equal opportunity" for all. The issue isn't equal opportunity, Cornelius. The issue is simply professionalism, leadership, etc. Basically, if you meet the standards that have been put in place for all directors, regardless of race, creed, color, etc. and if you WANT the position, you'll get it. Actually, it's pretty automatic, but I think the clause is there as a 'CYA' RO

www.takeafreecruise.info
www.traverus-traverus-traverus.blogspot.com

YTB Scandal

Guys...you can go on and on about this. The bottom line...who has made the most money. Your discussions are good to a point, but if no one makes any money then they are all mute. People want to see something they can count. In this case, it's money. The proof is in the results. He who has the biggest pile knows the most about whatever it is that he or she is presenting. My question to the both of you is.....who has the biggest pile of money? Not your upline...not those people in the magazines, but which one of you. That's who the people are going to follow. I've seen your arguments many times before. It's not only with YTB orany other MLM, but each one makes virtually the same arguments. I can only say that, because I've been there a number of times. Louie

www.takeafreecruise.info

YTB Red Carpet Compensation plan

To me YTB is just like any other company. They are in business to make money, which isn't a bad thing. I just think people need to know the contract they sign at the very least have a good idea. My issue with the Director level is that looks like it has too much wiggle room to have a glass ceiling or any other ceiling. I could be wrong. I have seen contracts that have noncompetes in them, but family wide? I can understand YTB as having reps who should represent, but if looking at A or B travel company I would think most people with everything being equal would go for the one with "equal opportunity" for all. This isn't just about YTB, but I think people need to step away from the table and not drink so much of the kool-Aid many of the MLM companies serve. People love a good speech, but the contracts are king

YTB Scandal Better Business Bureau

Cost	YTB 499.95	Traverus 99.95
Website	Travelocity	Travelocity
Territory	USA	International
Credentials	**Only CLIA	Clia, IATAN,
Suppliers	**Execptions	All Suppliers
Monthly Fee	49.95	49.95
Residual Income	$2 per person	$5 per upto $15 per person
Years of Operation	7 years	26years Travel/1 yr networking
Number of Reps	136,000	10,000
Member Trips	NO	YES

** YTB no longer has IATA Credentials and can no longer book travel through these suppliers. Marriot Hotels, Hyatt Hotels, Royal Caribbean Cruise lines, Norweigan Cruseline.

YTB VS Traverus Compensation

Cost	YTB 499.95	Traverus 179.00
Website	Travelocity	Travelocity
Territory	USA	International
Credentials	**Only CLIA	Clia, IATAN,
Suppliers	**Execptions	All Suppliers
Monthly Fee	49.95	49.95
Residual Income	$2 per person	$5 per upto $15 per person
Years of Operation	7 years	26years Travel/1 yr networking
Number of Reps	136,000	10,000
Member Trips	NO	YES

** YTB IATA Credentials were revoked. YTB can no longer book travel through Marriot Hotels, Hyatt Hotels, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines

If Traverus obviously makes more sense to you Give me a Call and let's get your free marketing website up today.

Pastor Brewer
515-277-6462

More Info:
YTB IATAN
YTB or Traverus
Traverus or YTB

Question answered about being a YTB Director.

RO. YTB may be the right company for the right person, but from what I read about the Director level that looks too restrictive. From your site.: Appointment, Terms and Conditions 1. INITIAL APPOINTMENT: The position of Sales Director with YTB is an appointed position in the discretion of YTB management, based upon the demonstration by a Rep of exceptional leadership and sales performance The key word to me is appointed.. Also I want multiple streams of income: 6. OTHER PROVISIONS: a. Exclusive to YTB: : In order to maintain status as a YTB Director, the Director, spouse, family, household members, or Director business partner are required not to participate in any other direct sales, network marketing or director sales company; b. Disclosure: A Director must fully, at all times, disclose any ongoing residual income being received from any other network marketing or direct sales company- Cornelius

Pastor Brewer
515-277-6462
www.takeafreecruise.info
www.traverus-traverus-traverus-blogspot.com

YTB Scandal

Preach it brother like I said the truth will set you FREE!!! He is FREE- stanley

2005 YTB Annual report: http://biz.yahoo.com/e/070313/ytbl.pk10ksb_a.html- cornelius

"Anyone who will not start a MLM at its inception because of risk, should never start MLM becuase the failure rate for starting any MLM is Multiples Higher than any MLM company for the first 5 months. YTB started by a man who took his last MLM company built it up and Sold it to an investor guru." These are interesting statements. I'd say to the first part... anyone who is serious about their long-term stability with an MLM and starts with a risky MLM is unwise at best. There are too many out there that are solid, have the track record, proven success and stand the test of time. About the founders of YTB, I think you're mistaken about some of your info. YTB is the first MLM that they've owned. As far as their personal business goes, the founder, Coach Lloyd Tomer sold his business to his son. "I found the same product for $100 www.travelbizinc.com ". In response to this: If the only product that you sell is "travel" in the tradition sense of the word, you certainly DO NOT have the same product that we have in YTB. YTB has lots of other travel related products and websites that your company does not have including: a celebrity golf website, sporting tickets, theater tickets, event tickets, honeymoon registry packages, passports, flowers, etc. The bottom line in this as in life is: YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! There are no free rides here people. You absolutely get what you pay for. Traverus I'm sure is good at what they do, but as compared to YTB, they just don't compare. The company simply does not and I suppose at this point, cannot offer people in its business the quality or quantity of goods and services that YTB offers. Indeed, YTB is the preferred brand, as proven by the fact that YTB didn't go to Travelocity to ask to be in partnership with them... they came to YTB... as did many of our other partners - RO

YTB or Traverus or World Ventures Florida

These are all good points but when you think about building a team you must first think about the team. 1.Cost can my team afford what I am offering and can they teach the same thing to their people. 2.Is the product a good product to market 3.Can your team follow you because you will help them to be successful You can have everything you want in life if you help enough people get what they want. Find out what people want. Stan

Keep in mind folks. YTB is seasoned with veteran MLMers in leadership. Traverus just came on the scene. It was a brick and mortar travel agency but just got into the MLM biz and has a limited at best track record for both MLM and online travel. The failure rate for MLMs is higher than that of normal businesses that have figures of 95% failing in the first 5 years. I wouldn't be so fast to jump in just because the entry fee is a little lower. RO


3/29/2007 2:19:36 PM

I agree with Regina. You have to look at more than just the price when you're signing up for or considering a business opportunity. Look at what you're getting for your money. They're a lot of travel companies out there that are card mills in disquise. Also look at the stability of the company itself. YTB is 6 years old. We're growing faster than ever. . . over 10,000 RTA's signed in only the first 3 months of 2007. We're soon going Global, and it's been announced that we will be featured AGAIN in Success from Home magazine in 2008. Let's also not forget that YTB is on the Stock Exchange. YTB is the best travel business out there. I can't see how anyone can say otherwise. Dana

Great comments everyone I really appreciate your participation. You have all said some good points. Seasoned leadership. I am sorry that you are not aware of the founder of Traverus. David Manning His Reputation is known as the compensation Guru. He has done consulting and created MLM Compensation Plans for a living! That's why you must look at it. This is the first of its kind Take the time to look at it. www.travelbizinc.com He was even wise enough to build the brick and mortar Travel Realationship with the top suppliers FIRST. Successfully. That's pretty amazing to successfully start and build an INTERNATIONAL travel agency strong enough to have relationships to be the only travel agency to Host the American Idol Cruise, Price is Right Cruise, and Family Fued Cruise. You have to know what your doing and have some experience for those companies to endorse you. The company is international YTB is planning to go global. But with those who are experienced in recruiting internationally know that you cannot sell overpriced products in other countrys. By the Time YTB hits global for $500 the market will already have heard about $100 and it will be difficult. Anyone who will not start a MLM at its inception because of risk, should never start MLM becuase the failure rate for starting any MLM is Multiples Higher than any MLM company for the first 5 months. YTB started by a man who took his last MLM company built it up and Sold it to an investor guru. YTB is a publicly traded company..hmm why..... and the same guy just sold Most 1millions dollars in stock which hurt the company. Mr Hayden said he made more money on the stock than the company..Lightbulb. I know some of you will never ever believe or think that they will ever ever sell YTB. Listen I know top leaders in Prime America which is the company he sold and I sold insurance an was involved back in the 90's and they are masters at building a crusade, a mission, a us against them. Our little insurance up against this corporate giants. our Travel company becoming Expedia exterminators, us against price line. Listen Business is Business and when you sell your stock as an owner when your stock is at its highest point ever....business is good. Remember I still have my YTB Portal I paid $500 I know what I am talking about here is my YTB Site www.atravelwebsite.com I found the same product for $100 www.travelbizinc.com I cant in good conscience sell the same product with that overpriced mark up. plus another $150 to get certified. even if a person buys certification it's less than the start up. Success from home magazine is an advertising magazine investment tool Companies line up and Pay success from home to be featured. All MLM Companies Pay big bucks to use it as a marketing tool. It is not a Third party opinion its advertisement. Thats my sermon for today. This is really helping the readers learn some things about MLM they may have never heard or knew about before. Pastor Brewer www.takeafreecruise.info

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I think that we're making a mistake getting tied up in the numbers. The bottom line is about passion. Do you have a passion for what you're selling? Someone with passion can join a progam for $1,000.00 and make it a success, if they have passion and a purpose. However that same person can join a company for $10.00 and not have any passion or commitment and end up doing nothing. The compensation plan is meaningless if I don't produce. The bottom line is that the benefits of a program are personal to each individual. I can't tell you that program X is better than program Y. I can only tell you what program X has done for me and why I'm passionate about it. I've seen several people on CB sing praises of a specific network marketing company one month, and the next month they're singing praises of a different one. Why would I want to sign up with someone under those circumstances? I guess the bottom line is what's best for one person may not be a good fit for another...regardless of price. Louie Jones Host-The Louie Jones Show WCFJ AM 1470 Chicago

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Cost	YTB 499.95	Traverus 99.95
Website	Travelocity	Travelocity
Territory	USA	International
Credentials	**Only CLIA	Clia, IATAN,
Suppliers	**Execptions	All Suppliers
Monthly Fee	49.95	49.95
Residual Income	$2 per person	$5 per upto $15 per person
Years of Operation	7 years	26years Travel/1 yr networking
Number of Reps	136,000	10,000
Member Trips	NO	YES

** YTB no longer has IATA Credentials and can no longer book travel through these suppliers. Marriot Hotels, Hyatt Hotels, Royal Caribbean Cruise lines, Norweigan Cruseline.

If Traverus obviously makes more sense to you Give me a Call and let's get your free marketing website up today.

Now you getting into comparison thats what I want to discuss. Many of the people who are trying YTB are finding that in this economy 500.00 is to much of an investment so they are not hitting all the bonuses they are advertising. YTB Reps Earning I want to hear from more following or visiting that Disagree with my topic. Thanks -Pastor

Angelia I am not going to debate the benefits of YTB vs Traverus with someone that does not speak the truth. I put my wife and daughter into YTB because I could get them in at less than $500. Was well worth the money. I built a team of over 30 people in a short period of time. Most all got in at less than $500. They too saw the value. After that only a few people have gotten in at $500. I still help them if needed but if someone wants to get into a travel business, I now have the ability to offer people a choice. It is their decision. YTB or Traverus if the choive I give them. I got into Traverus for $119 and since I travel all the time for my business I now have a choice of which one to use. Same search engine for both. Bet you did not know that fact. As far as needing to upgrade to CTA, it cost $149 for the training at YTB, $50 at Traverus and passing an open book test. YTB additional Association training to sign up non-profits, $149. Same training at Traverus is not needed. They both charge $49.95 per month for your site, so that is a mute point. - David

Very true comments I would say it is hard to say any business is the Best. Different strokes...you know the saying. That is why Coke offers more than one type of Drink There is more than one type of Pizza Place and Cheeseburger So saying something is the best is hard to swallow in food and in MLM. Funny How most successful business models all believe in diversification find the consumer that is drawn to certain types of Products. Even though travel is not for EVERYONE it is the #1 searched for product online. So the market is larger for consumer interest than any other product. So the question on the table in this forum is. How much are you going to buy your burgers for, How much are you going to sell the burger for. What type of commission do you get and what type of volume do you need for a profit. I personally think www.travelbizinc.com has a better price point for the product. I am not Hating on YTB I wish I knew about it when it was ground floor. I missed that one 4 yrs ago. Traverus Travel..It has a greater potential of massive duplication Where as YTB those who get in now cannot duplicate all the big money earners coming in 6yrs later building a downline underneath them. It's not rocket science so don't be sold the hype that YTB is ground floor when momentum has passed. -Pastor Brewer

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I have to agree, Expensive programs are good to sell if you have access to a large list of leads. Its a numbers game. But I guarantee I can find MORE people a lot quicker selling a 119.00 dollar program than a 500 dollar one. Has nothing to do with the product as Travel is just that about price. Most of the people who market on the internet and are successful selling big ticket items have LARGE LIST of subscribers. Its a number game. If you are selling a 500 product you are going to have to make a lot more exposures to get people to join.

I agree with Pastor Brewer Why pay $500 for something when you can get the same product for $119. The remaining $380 can be used to fund marketing , a nice gift for the spouse, or to help a family member get started in business as well. I am informed because I have researched both businessess and find I get more ROI from the $119 travel business in terms of business growth potential and compensation. Check it out for yourself - David

David- I thought that you were with YTB. What happened -Paulette


I believe David may have saw what I did. A program that can help more people succeed and build a downline with a $100 product VS a $500.00 Also this company Stared in Nov of 06. Also Traverus has a True CTA Certified Travel agent relationship vs YTB RTA Referring Travel Agent relationships.

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There are many site on the internet of conversations with other travel agents discussing which opportunity is the most duplicatible for a person to get invloved with as a home based travel agent agent.

One person said"$500---Thats a lotta hard work ta get back ya INVESTMENT!!!???? WoW! I can tell ya about a $500 BONUS but $500 to get started in a Home Biz????? Not I! Much Success In All You Do- Ron" Many People are finding it difficult to build large downlines with YTB $500 entry Price point. Many people are not aware YTB use to cost $250.00 so people trying to build the business today at double the price point are not seeing the growth the history of the company is recording.

Well put! I agree just keeping folk informed.-Yolanda

Traverus is a ground floor International Opportunity. Which has More supplier relationships to sell Travel and More Credibility in the Travel Industry Since YTB does not have IATAN Credentials and cannot sell through Marriot or Hyatt.

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Nothing Personal. Most people are not sales people and to try to get someone to Sell a $500.00 product working partime from home you have to be good one. And The average person working a homebased business for the first time does not know how to sell nor do they even want to. So I don't recommend (YTB) your travel biz as the most duplicatiple MLM business. However I have found for those wanting to get involved in the Networking industry with the same product can do it for much less $119.00 to be exact with Traverus, and that is my suggestion.

Here is the real cost of Your Travel Biz or YTB Travel is 499.00 for the RTA position but you are not a real travel agent at this price you only have the right to Refer Travel to your website. If you want to work directly with the suppliers you have to get Certified and Pay $150.00 more so that is 650.00 but that is not all if you want to work with nonprofit organizations you have to pay another $150.00 and that makes the total about $800.00

I don't think YTB Travel Network is a Scam. I know from experince as current travel agent of the company(www.atravelwebsite.com)vs(www.3x9forcedmatrix.com) its just not the most duplicatible business at those prices. I hope this sparks discussion to make opportunity seekers look at both companys and compare Traverus and see its the same product and booking engine one just alot less than the other. You can sign up in Your Travel Biz and look at the whole program for free here www.ytb.com/pastorm then compare it with Traveus. Let me know what you think!

Pastor Brewer
515-277-6462

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